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Map of the Austrian Reich by Martin23230 Map of the Austrian Reich by Martin23230
A rather unlikely map I made a while ago of Austria taking the place of Germany in the Second World War.

I did make a basic timeline and indeed a series of maps for this, the basic idea is thus:

Franz Ferdinand is not assassinated, and implements the United States of Greater Austria plan. The Hungarians however are not happy and formally walk out, taking half the empire with them. The Austrians are annoyed at the Germans for not supporting their threats towards the Hungarians and even blocking them declaring war, so they cancel their alliance and move more towards France and the UK. Germany on the other hand signs alliances with Italy, Hungary and Russia.

WW1 still comes along; Germany, Russia, Hungary Serbia and the Ottomans vs. France, Austria, the UK, Italy, Romania and Japan.

There is severe fighting in Austria, as German forces invade from the West, Russian from the North, Hungarian from the East and Serbian from the South. However France and the UK manage to hold German advances in the West and capture German colonies, Japan and the UK take Russian territories in the Far East and the Ottomans also suffer. By the end of the war the Central Powers are defeated, although much of Austria is devastated. Following strong Austrian demands Germany is split up into 5 separate nations (Prussia, Hanover, Saxony, the Rhineland and Bavaria) and Russia (who underwent a Communist Revolution so were willing to sign a Brest-Litovsk-like treaty) also looses Finland, the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine, along with territories in the East. Romania gains Hungarian and Russian lands, whilst France reclaims A-L and Poland is given independence from German and Russian lands.

Over the next few decades the NSÖAP (Nationalsozialistische Österreicher Arbeiterpartei) rises to prominence in Austria, calling for unification of the German lands under Austria along with claims on Hungary, Poland and Serbia. They claim that Austria gained no territories from the Great War in which it was devastated, which is partially right (The Western allies were happy to split up Germany, but didn't want to give Austria back Hungary given that they partially sympathised with the Hungarians demand for independence, similar to Poland.)

In 1933 Adolph Hitler is elected Minister-President for the NSÖAP (commonly known as the Nasop - Naz-opp Party), a slightly less radical version of OTL Hitler given he grew up in a more tolerant USGA Austria but still intent on rebuilding the borders of a new Vienna-centred Holy Roman Empire.

In the 1935 Budapest Agreement Hungary is reunited with the rest of the Austrian Empire.

In 1937 the Munich Anschluss is enacted, annexing the nations of Bavaria, Saxony and Prussia to the Greater Austrian Empire.

In 1939 Emperor Franz Ferdinand is successfully assassinated by Yugoslav rebels when visiting the city of Sarajevo, 25 years after he survived a similar attempt in the same city. Hitler declares himself temporary (Yeah right) leader of the Empire and declares war on Yugoslavia. Due to their alliance Poland and Russia also join the fight, which drags in France in 1940 once Austrian troops invade the Rhineland.

This map shows the Greater Austrian Reich at its maximum extent after the Treaty of Versailles ends the war with an Austrian victory. Greater Austria annexes the Rhineland, Poland and Yugoslavia, whilst France is split in two to complete Austrian domination of the Mediterranean.

Hitler in this timeline is if anything much more sensible from OTL, he refrains from attacking any of the Behanelux (Belgium, Hanover, the Netherlands and Luxembourg - TTL version of the Benelux) nations so as to keep Britain from entering the war, likewise the eastern states serve as a fine buffer from Soviet Russian aggression.

The Reich is unstable, although better than Nazi German due to the USGA plan giving many more rights to minorities. Sure it's a dictatorship, but not a mass-murdering one like Nazi Germany. However weather it can hold onto the power it has over Central Europe remains to be seen...
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner May 13, 2015
Most Austrians at the time saw themselves as Germans so I don't know why they'd want a greater Austria through out Europe and not just name it Germany.
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chaosbob34 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015
Could you make a flag for this?
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Joniarty Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Austria will Never be as powerful as Germany now, but nice try c:
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CalvinCoolidge1924 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014
I found this to be pretty interesting. I never thought of Austria as the alternate history’s Nazi Germany.
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MacX85 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It might have been called Germany nontheless as Austrians were considered to be Germans as well, but basically pushed out of it by Prussia.
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TheObsydianCrow Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
A very interesting concept.
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Warsie Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nitpicking: "Austria" means "Eastern Reich" - i.e. "Ostreich". Even if Austria does the unification I suspect the state will still be called 'Germany' or something along that line.
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Nikdo-92 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
huh this is nice. GJ you!
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Cheetaaaaa Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2012
Finally something different! A very interesting scenario.
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sobercollegekid23 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011
I personally prefer a Czeltlandic Reich, but oh well.
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MagnumInominandum Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Very interesting!
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011
Thanks!
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Rarayn Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
Very nice work. I definitely like the idea, and the execution of it is great too.
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2011
Thanks. It came from a pretty common idea that people would get when studying German History - when finding out that Hitler was born in Austria, could the Nazis have risen there instead of in Germany?
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Mattystereo Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2011
So, what (if any) overseas territories does the reich have?
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
Probably none. Considering it started out from the Austrian empire, which never had any colonies, then absorbed most of Germany which would have had its colonies seized in WW1. Then most of the former French colonies would have stayed with one or other of the French states, or the ones that were easily accessible, like North Africa, be partitioned out amongst Austria's allies.
Plus the Reich Navy still isn't great. It was never an Austrian priority, and the old German navy would still have been lost at Jutland (or equivalent) and then at Scapa Flow. The Navy is getting better, but without Hamburg, Lübeck, Kiel or any of the traditional German naval sites it still remains small.
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kazi2000 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
interesting work :)
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
Thanks!
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TomBombardier Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2011
The Emperor would have been the only thing keeping that together, really. Since the children of his bourgeoisie Bohemian wife were forbidden from taking the throne, maybe they would be good figure heads or leaders. Actually, why don't you have something for a civil war between the two thirds of the empire that wasn't Hungarian and the Magyars who didn't want to stay?
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2011
I like the comparison with the King of Italy below, or the King of Spain. The monarchy would be sidelined but still exist as a stabilising force, many of the people in the Empire would have a loyalty to the monarchy rather than to the state.

As for the inevitable Civil War and collapse, it’s not going to be pretty. But as in mentioned before, the empire just won two world wars against some of the most powerful nations in the world and the USGA plan gives minorities much more of a say (though the German-speakers do dominate), so actually much of the population is satisfied where they are.

Hungary did originally leave after opposing the USGA plan; Austria was prevented from keeping them by force mainly by Germany who didn't want a civil war on its southern flanks interfering with its plans for war. That and Hungary (despite not being Slavic) did get some support from Russia and Serbia as a sort of Enemy-of-my-Enemy deal. After the First World War Hungary managed to keep its independence mainly this time as the western Allies supported it along with Poland and Russia's eastern territories as a new order for Eastern Europe. That, and the fact they had just been fighting against Germany’s ambitions for an eastern European empire, no one wanted another German-speaking empire taking over central Europe (which of course is exactly what happened).

By 1935 though the Hungarians had little choice but to be united back into the Empire, there was protests as there were in Austria in OTL, but overall they had seen which way the wind was blowing.
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TomBombardier Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2011
Didn't the Grand Fascist Council thing also remove Mussolini? Was the border of Hungary the same as the one in our world so as to sideline their electorate in Hungary? Sorry, but I'm having trouble getting the map to fully load and to wrap my mind around certain things in the text.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2011
How about the Austro-Nazis being deposed the same way the King of Italy deposed Mussolini?
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2011
Possibly. The Royal family is still there, just sidelined by Hitler.
To be perfectly honest though, they won the war so they are still pretty popular, at least with the German-speakers. Even now the Hungarians and Czechs are more in favour now of staying in a successful multi-ethnic empire than wanting to leave.
If I do continue however the Empire would probably have a big USSR-style collapse into loads of different nations. Then they would probably want to get rid of the Nasops.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2011
Though I'm more in favor of a surviving core Austria-Hungary. Maybe with a few Poles added? ;)
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Martin23230 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2011
Quite possibly like Russia after the USSR, there may well still be some minorities around the edges... ;)
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2011
Makes sense too...
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